Solutions for No X-Server and 'Redesigned' Rewards (?)

Let's start with the fact that Bioware has not released any new PvP content in over two years, apart from the most disliked warzone (Quesh Huttball). With no commitment to new PvP content apart some superficial changes in 3.3, it might be the final deathblow for PvP - esspecially for (both S- and T-)Ranked. Let me elaborate:

On the 15th of October Eric Musco promised "something better than cross-server". Cleary, we will never see such a thing. Cross-server would be solution to several problems:

(1) Long que times / No pops
Everyone knows on all servers, apart from the Tomb of Freedom Nadd, Solo Ranked is almost non-existent. If it pops, it only pops on 'primetime' or even 'primetime in the weekends'. Having a larger population and people from different timezones this problem would be solved.


(2) Wintrading
Everyone also knows there is a massive amount of wintraders. In the past seasons a lot of people used T-R to wintrade quickly. T-R is even more dead than S-R. Now, because of the fact that T-R is almost non-existent people that appear with 1600+ rating on the Group Leaderboards actually stand out if they are not 'known players' (which is once again evidence that Ranked is dead). So people have fled to Solo to wintrade.

Solo wintrading is commonly done by two people queueing as healer or tank. Two 'friends' would que sync - ideally outside of 'primetime' and opposite faction -but again - due to the small population even same faction works out. When they simultaneously get a pop, (a) either one leaves the que (making the other end up either 3v4 or against 4 dps - which is a near garantueed win) or (b) both join and one "pretends" to be legit but makes obviously mistakes, e.g. does not heal properly/does not use cooldowns/does not kite/does not switch guard et cetera.

I know a lot of people notice this and a lot of people file tickets against suspected players. As we all know, Bioware does not actually act against wintrading/trolling. If they do, they merely reset the rating at the end of the season. This leaves you with wintraders the entire season and usually they just try again next season.

Musco's claims that they've banned people and seen a decline in this activity around ~50% is highly unlikely. They have not provided any evidence to support this claim. Once again, this could (at least to a large extent) be fixed by X-Server. A larger population in different timezones would increase the amount of healers and tanks in que for Solo Ranked. This would make this stragety near-impossible to be succesful. Obviously, the same reasoning applies to T-R. With a larger population the chances increase that wintrading teams stumble upon actual teams.


(3) Trolling
I reckon we can define this, at least to some extent, what is mentioned under 2b). Experientially there is no real difference - you either end up 3v4 or you end up with a guy that gets globalled on purpose, does random 'friendly pulls' and so forth. There are several well-known trolls on several servers and I am certain there have been dozens of tickets against these people: they simply do not get banned.

This phenomenon is probably the hardest to counter, but, as we will see, it relates to the next (4) problem. Nevertheless, it worth a mention, that a larger population would decrease the chances that people constantly keep getting teamed up with the same troll.


(4) ELO system
This problem obviously relates to everything mentioned above:

(1) No pops equals no opportunity to even get rating.
(2) Here lucks play a factor. Either you're lucky to end up with the 'winner in the trade' or you almost have guaranteed loss of rating. Obviously, wintraders that are 'succesful' and get away with it proves the system is broken. Ranking no longer a strong representation of people their skill.
(3) Same reasoning applies as under (2). If you're on the opposite team you might benefit from it.

Perhaps there is even a bigger problem, namely Musco's logic concerning pops, i.e. "The PvP community just want pops". Due to the small population and the current system people can end up with either 'extreme bads' or 'trolls', with rating literally varying from 10 times up to 300 times lower rating. For instance, I have been in games with people under 15 rating (!) while I was well over 1500.

To put it more straightforward: Yes, Eric, I want pops! But honestly, I rather have no pops than having pops with people that have 100 times lower rating that will end up ruining mine.

With a larger population and a properly functioning system people with equal amounts of rating are more likely to end up with each other. Trolls will end up with other trolls. Good players who want actual competitive PvP will end up with and against other good players. Everyone wins.

Another consequence would be that Solo wintrading will be much harder as well, i.e. the 'losers in the trade' will eventually be on too low rating to end up with their 'partner'. The 'winners in the trade' (who are probably not good - since they feel the necessity to get high rating by wintrading) have a higher chance to end up with other high rated tanks/heals (who are actually good) that will most likely beat them. Once again, chances for 'succesful' wintraders are decreased.


(5) 'Redesigned' rewards
Bioware announced that from S6 on the rewards are not strictly related to rating. You will earn tokens to buy rewards. Even (formerly) Tier 3 players could get Tier 1 rewards - yet "they would have to play alot of games". Obviously, no one knows what "a lot" means. Note, there might be trolls or 'losers in the trade' who literally play hundreds of games. Even though they might end up with really low rating, due to the massive amount of games they can still get rewards. Now, imagine an average player who reaches Tier 2 rating but only with 10-30 games (due to the lack of pops on his server). This player might deserve Tier 1 rewards but will be unable to get them.

Clearly, this 'redesign' is not a solution to any of the problems mentioned above, on the contrary, it will actually pay off for people abusing the current state of the game.


Giving away some cheap character transfers is not gonna cut it in the end. There might be a small shift in populations and PvP activity on certain specific servers. Yet, in the long run none of the problems will be solved.


What would be, according to you, solutions to these problems. Can they be adressed properly without cross-server? If so, elaborate here. Bioware "reads the forums" and "listens the community" - let's benefit from this! :rolleyes:

Latest Posts

Need to vent PVP thread 2018
I have a 57 sniper I last played a couple years ago, so decided to recreate a new sniper just to reacquaint myself with the abilities and to mess through the early class quests for fun. After doing H..
Time cards
Two days ago I purchased a 60 days time card from a local store, even got a discount because I'm their client since they opened, in 2008. My question is : after the 60 days expire, can I buy another t..
Grouping
I am wondering how to start a group, choose your fp in vet, ops or master mode and have random people join? i see some old threads on this, but nothing about starting your own grouphttp://www.swtor.c..
Veteran pvper advice to newbies
These are things that really trigger me in matches this past week when solo queuing as a healer. Take them as you will. 1) Stop pushing healers into their own back-line. The amount of times a jug ha..
I need info about PT Tank
I'm new with Tank so.. 5.0 dulfy guide seems far and half information is a bit useless there. I wanted to know some real exact numbers about howmuch shield/defense/crit/acc to get because I really do..
Dark Designs +4 Heroic Seems Impossible. *Devs Please Help!*
After over two hours of asking on the fleet for help with Dark Designs and not finding any I decided to try and solo it. I got all the way to Maki’voro have gotten him down to half health three..
One-Time Error Don't Care, and Don't Fix?
Tell me if I'm prejudiced because it's 10+ attempts already since 10:20 AM in my time zone and now it's 19:44 PM all I got are expired One-Time Password which I received in about 1 or 2 hour after the..
Best way to grind CXP as a fresh 70 mostly-solo player?
Hello everyone! So, I hit level cap a short while ago and I was wondering if there was a way to grind CXP efficiently as a solo player, in this current patch. I googled and I see a lot of info for ol..
What level should you be in when starting SoR prelude
I was in the fleet when i saw the SoR prelude droid when i took it i had to complete the Assault on Tython flashpoint,i got wrecked and couldn’t even kill one soldier.my level was 55 but i still..
Prelude to Revan problem
I am leveling up a new toon and I just recently started the Prelude to Revan series of missions. However I am unable to access the flashpoints in story mode. I have repeatedly cleared the missions, ..
How do you play against PT tanks in SR?
Occasionally I venture into the plains of tankdom with my jugg, but I am having a hard time surviving against pt tanks with all the aoe going on. Especially if they happen to be grouped with en eng. s..
Mapping functions to the mouse
I am not exactly a new player. I have actually been around since the last few open beta But seem to have a continuous problem that I haven't found a solution for yet: I am using a five button mouse. ..
Flashpoints, Heroics, Warzones are no more fun
Flashpoints, Warzones, Heroics are no more fun, they have become useless cause of constant nerfing of characters and you do not dare enter Master mode cause you character is slaughtered as soon as yo..
Veteran tatoine starfighter
Hello, quick question, im a relatively fresh 70 with just 2 piece of 230 gear other gear is 210/220, i tried to solo starfighter veteran taotine but at the last solar flare part of the boss, he just b..
new to operations
i just finished the original story line and am now moving on to the hutt cartel content but before i finish makeb i want to know about the correct equipment and mastery lvl needed to sucessfully compl..
If I transfer a character to a different sever will I lose anything?
So recently I got a token to a free character transfer and I was wonder should I transfer one of my characters to another sever? Will I lose anything doing so. I played on the Starforge sever where m..
Series of strange backfills yesterday
Guys I know its incredible, but I played just for fun on my 1200 jug yesterday. And im 100% sure that one famous wintrader used some new bug for farming elo. Lets call him Fyala (name changed). So Fy..
Help me with decision
Hello again, I still dont know which one I should focus more, Jugg or Assassin(I have both), but still I want to focus on one. I want do both PvP and PvE, I know both are viable for this, one is more..
why does lokath have no battlemasters in imp/rep base to kill for conquest?
I dont understand why lokath has all this cool pvp stuff but all i see is carebear pve stuff going on? (yes there is a pvp instance and thats what im talking about) It would be so cool to put a jedi/..
<Paramount Gaming> Izax Sales
Hello, <Paramount Gaming> is accepting more buyers for 8m and 16m Izax Veteran Mode Achievements. We are offering:<Par Thee> <Strike Team: Defeating Izax (*-Person Veteran> <Sup..
Help with Disiplines
When you choose a discipline, say, Jedi Sentinel and you choose the combat discipline, when you go to your class trainer do you just learn combat skills or can you learn the other discipline skills as..
CZ-198 is supposed to be level 55, but it's level 70.
CZ-198. I get the quest from the droid, go to starship, get sent to CZ-198 to do Titans of Industry. I follow the green mission icon and it leads me to Weekly Veteran Flashpoint dispenser. I take the ..
help with camera rotation
Hello everyone A question as I do to move the camera without using the mouse, because I currently move it by pressing the left click and then moving the mouse, I want to do with the buttons on the ke..
What means "to carry"
Hi, what does it mean to you when somebody says he carried the team? What sort of things did he do? Can you make a list, maybe give some examples if it's not clear? Maybe it's highest dps? Maybe a ..
<Failure> & <It's Lit> Selling IZAX 8m & 16m Veteran Mode in 5.8
<Failure> & <It's Lit> are now offering sale runs for IZAX Veteran mode on 8m and 16m difficulty for a limited time before patch 5.9 (expected to be May 1st). We have an extremely expe..
Websites and Resources for Returning Players
Any Icy-Veins or WoWhead equivalents for SWTOR that are reasonably up to date? I played this game when it first came out, but haven't done much except log on and look around since then. I understand ..
About Alliance supply crate
I wonder if I can get the Remnant dreadguard trooper set from an Alliance supply crate without playing with a commando? Can I still get the set if I'm playing with any other class or the only way is t..
The 10 Solo Kill Achievements
Have any of you gotten these? If so, how? I'd like knock out all the PVP achievements but I have yet to even come close to those ones. I think the most solo kills I've ever gotten in a match were 6, ..
Warlord Kephess Rendering Problem
I'm having a bit of a delay with Warlord Kephess (final boss of EC) rendering for me. I suspect a lot of it has to do with my computer, however I was wondering if there was anything I could do to get..
<Seven Stuck> Selling IZAX Veteran Mode 5.8
Server: Tulak Hord Special rewards from boss that will only be available during 5.8 patch. Unique tittle for your character, special legacy rewards, which will come with patch 5.9. What you get:<..
Flashpoint, when every one leaves, and you want to get new people...
Well 2 times today people leave because they cant handle the s..it, so standing at the last boss, and your the only one, you no longer caan queue, i get the message hovering over the CANNOT QUEUE gree..
Expertise might be returning
From this thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=946806sorc / sage improvement coming, whether utilities or buffing the class (in addition to multiple classes utilities changing) pvp ..
<Disciples of Babylon> Selling IZAX Veteran Mode 5.8
Limited time offer. Special rewards from boss that will only be obtainable during 5.8 patch. Unique tittle for your character, special legacy rewards, which will come with patch 5.9 What you get:..
SWTOR Centrals interview
So I watched SWTOR Centrals interview video with Eric and Charles. One thing that stuck out in my mind was them talking about locking out people in PvP matches that bail on them. Personally all fine a..
The “Swtor-sum” for succes in game (or failure) Do the math and decide:
Hello, So I started to pick up my SWTOR-account and was happily surprised about the game itself and some changes it went through. Although I can’t say the same about the community. And when I s..
My Character Backstory
Hey everyone. I have just started a Sith Inquistor playthrough and wanted some ideas for the backstory of my character. She is a female Twi'Lek, and I would like her to have a sense of honour (aka n..
A Saturday ruined due to a tank botter [DM]
So we have a tank wintrading with himself using a tank-bot today. I mean really. How low and self-entitled can you possibly get? Way to ruin the queue for everyone - and no I don't want to queue tank ..
Dear BioWare: Breaking Tanks =/= Fixing Skanks
From a summary of the upcoming class changes: Quote: First, “skank tanks” are greatly overperforming in PvP. This is a player who is using a Tank Discipline but equippi..
What a difference a day makes
So gonna start out saying I've only been doing warzones a grand total of 2 days, I'll admit to having very little clue what is actually happening, hell I have a hard time actually tracking buffs and d..
Fee for collections
So normal day, I unlocked a set of armor on my main and a lighsaber, I made a jedi cause i wanted to use it with them but if I want to use it i have to pay a fee, I know how it works and im not here f..
Search
Type in your search text above