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4:24 am, July 27, 2015
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Thoughts on fixing PVP 3.3 without rebalancing classes

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We all must agree, things got a bit out off hand. With every update HP pools increasing, fights are getting longer, healers have unlimited resources and it is easier than ever to be a healer (sorry, and yes, i play a healer too, and no, not only). In my opinion, healers life should be misery without a guard from tank, tanks life should be a misery without a healer, and dps life should be misery against proper support role playing. And I mark my words, SUPPORT role. Healer should be a support role, and should not be immortal if chosen so, like now can be.
You may argue that it is the case of poor dps, and I agree in many cases. Why? Being dps is the role needing many factors to succeed: communication (focusing), targeting skills (recognising priority), knowledge of other class (GDC), and finaly, knowledge of CD management for BURST. It does not surprise me to see 50% dps in the ops underperforming. Now ask yourselves what does it take to succeed in healing? And folks, survivability is an universal skill for all classes.

So, some my suggestions.

1. Friendly Targeting.
Lock the ops frame. It's fairly easy - cant target a friendly just by clicking ops frame. Everyone can open the editor, make the hp pool bigger and just run around clicking the ones taking damage without even watching the environment. Well, not until you hear shiv at least. Switching friendly target should be mastered, just like targeting must be mastered by a dps. Applies to all classes and roles, both tanks and healers. Tanks should switch focus targets effectively to utilize guard. It is insanely easy to heal whoever you want even without being aware of your environment.

2. Redesign Bolster.
Lower damage reduction for healers or boost damage for dps roles. Healers MUST be the squishiest, and unguarded healer should die even with cross healing. Proper tanking is the cure. This would increase class dependency on each other, making it crucial to make friends, make balanced groups and que together. And thats how it should be, it's an mmo. I never made more friends, when playing a tank and doing decent protection on average + peels for heals. Every healer back then wanted to be in my group. Now if I play a healer i don't care if I have a tank or not, I can perform well and with the tank or cross healing well it is an easy mode. IMO I should not perform well without a tank.

3. Countering healing output.
Well, i lied a bit in the title. This suggestion will involve rebalancing, but minor. Tanks can taunt dps, countering it's ability to do damage, not to mention some of the abilities and debuffs adding to it. I would suggest that it would counter healing done the same. It also becomes tactical - should I use my precious taunt for a top dps to counter, or for their top healer while dps? Well this rebalancing does not affect pve in any way (correct if i am wrong i am do not do much pve), so cheers for that.

That's for now, feel free to discuss and add more if you have to say anything about it. And I would try to have in mind to leave the pve folk untouched.

Oh almost forgot. Nerf OP/Scound roll. xD Just kidding. Just make it not possible to roll through ***** traps in hutball and I am happy.

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